The Earliest Known Prayer To The Mother Of God

We often hear that “Mary worship” didn’t start until the middle ages. Well, that’s not true – “Mary worship” has never started. But prayers asking Her intercession have been in use for almost two thousand years.

Here is the earliest known prayer to the Mother of God – in constant use since at least the year 250 (Click on the photo to read the story):

Prayer to Theotokos

 

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6 Responses to The Earliest Known Prayer To The Mother Of God

  1. guestpeaker says:

    Where do you get it from that God would have a mother. God is the Divine Creator of everything. Before Him there was nobody.

    The Mary worship is something against the Will of God, Him not wanting other gods, people or animals being worship, prayed for or bowed down for.

    Catholics who wrongly consider Jesus to be god, not accepting that he was really a man of flesh and blood who gave himself for the sins of others, dying at the stake as the son of man and son of God. they have made of him a god, forgetting all the words that God and Jesus said about themselves and that God is an eternal Spirit, not having flesh and bones, who cannot be seen by man and cannot die.

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    • rightbill says:

      Hi”fromguestwriters”,

      Regarding the Divinity of Jesus:

      Short answer: It’s a Christian thing. Jesus IS fully God and fully man. He is one person with two distinct natures – Divine and Human. To deny the divinity of Jesus is to fall into the heresy of Arianism. (Here is some more information on this: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01707c.htm)

      Jesus’ Divinity is documented in Holy Scripture

      Jn 1: 1 – 18

      01 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
      02 He was in the beginning with God.
      03 All things came to be through him, and without him nothing came to be. What came to be
      04 through him was life, and this life was the light of the human race;
      05 the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
      06 A man named John was sent from God.
      07 He came for testimony, to testify to the light, so that all might believe through him.
      08 He was not the light, but came to testify to the light.
      09 The true light, which enlightens everyone, was coming into the world.
      10 He was in the world, and the world came to be through him, but the world did not know him.
      11 He came to what was his own, but his own people did not accept him.
      12 But to those who did accept him he gave power to become children of God, to those who believe in his name,
      13 who were born not by natural generation nor by human choice nor by a man’s decision but of God.
      14 And the Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us, and we saw his glory, the glory as of the Father’s only Son, full of grace and truth.
      15 John testified to him and cried out, saying, “This was he of whom I said, ‘The one who is coming after me ranks ahead of me because he existed before me.'”
      16 From his fullness we have all received, grace in place of grace,
      17 because while the law was given through Moses, grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
      18 No one has ever seen God. The only Son, God, who is at the Father’s side, has revealed him.

      Jn 14: 6 – 14

      06 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
      07 If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”
      08P Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”
      09 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
      10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.
      11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves.
      12 Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.
      13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
      14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.

      Jn 10:30 I and the Father are one.

      Catholics do not ‘worship’ Mary (at least, not using the definition of the word ‘worship’ that is intended in your statement, but that’s another topic altogether.) We honor Mary. Jesus honored Mary. God, the Father honored Mary. The Holy Spirit honored Mary. The Holy Trinity honored (and continues to honor) Mary more than the Catholic Church ever could. Why wouldn’t we follow God’s example and do the same?

      The person, Jesus is God and Man. He is one person with two natures, not two persons. Mary is His mother. She is not the Mother of his nature, she is the mother of His person. She is the Mother of God.

      There was never a “Before Him” where God is concerned. God has always been, He always is and He will always be.

      Hope that helps!

      God Bless You.

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  2. guestpeaker says:

    When you look at the apostles John his writing you can notice he like to parallel it with the 1st book of Moses and in that way used the same story line as in Genesis of the Pentateuch for the Beginning of the Old World as his genesis of the New World.

    The apostle uses the “Word” which is a reaction of speaking and not as such a person. In the beginning God spoke and it came into being. In the same way God had spoken in the Garden of Eden (long before Abraham) about a solution for the fall of man. That solution brought forward by the speaking of God came now into being. Jesus being placed in the womb of Mary is by the force of God and the fulfilment of his speaking or His Word coming into being – not God coming into being.

    When we look at the original version in English this could be translated as:

    Yah Chanan (#Jo 1:1-3): In the beginning the Word having been and the Word having been unto God and God having been the Word he having been, in the beginning, unto God all through his hand became: and without him not even one being whatever became. (Aramaic New Covenant; ANCJ Released: 1996 Contents: New Testament Source Used: Exegeses Bibles (1996)Location: Tyndale House, Cambridge, United Kingdom)

    or in plain English being translated as:

    “In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.” (NWT)

    “The Word was in the beginning, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a God.” (The New Testament in An Improved Version)

    “In the beginning existed the Logos, and the Logos was with God, and the Logos was a god.” (The Monotessaron)

    “In a beginning was the Word, and the Word was with the God, and a god was the Word.” (Emphatic Diaglott – interlineary side)

    About that Word having come into the flesh (Jeshua or Jesus Christ) this person was a high person (a god, like Moses, Pharaoh, Apollo, Zeus, Baal or called gods but are not The God). The God later brought again His Voice over that man, when he was standing in the river Jordan. What do you think He said there about this man? Did God tell a lie? Though the bible tells us that God does not tell lies. So, why do Catholics not believe what God Himself said about that man?:

    “21 Now it came to pass, when all the people were baptized, that, Jesus also having been baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, 22 and the Holy Spirit descended in a bodily form, as a dove, upon him, and a voice came out of heaven, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased. 23 And Jesus himself, when he began [to teach], was about thirty years of age, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the [son] of Heli,” (Luke 3:21-23 ASV)

    “and lo, a voice out of the heavens, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” (Matthew 3:17 ASV)

    “And a voice came out of the heavens, Thou art my beloved Son, in thee I am well pleased.” (Mark 1:11 ASV)

    “And a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my Son, my chosen: hear ye him.” (Luke 9:35 ASV)

    By the Words of God, written down in the Holy Scriptures we do hear that God is saying Jesus is His dearly loved Son, with whom God is well pleased. He does not say He is there standing in the water but His son is standing there.

    Strangely enough you quote what we would consider very clearly that Jesus is not God but the Way to God, though you misunderstand it by thinking Jesus says he is God. Please do read the words properly. Is there not written?

    “I am the way, and the truth, and the life: no one cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14:6 ASV)

    Jesus says that he is the way not to himself but to God and that no one goes to the Father except through him. Read further:

    “I am the door; by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and go out, and shall find pasture.” (John 10:9 ASV)

    Plus again referring back to what was spoken or said in the old times:

    “And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father), full of grace and truth.” (John 1:14 ASV)

    the Word that became flesh is God His Speaking not God Him self that came into existence, by having Jesus come into the flesh, not having God come into the flesh. Where in the bible does it say God came into the flesh?

    When you see at other places in John you read that this word is “a man” and not a spirit, though God is an eternal Spirit and man can not see that God and live, though many saw Jesus and stayed alive. There where even people who came back to live.

    “And he said, Thou canst not see my face; for man shall not see me and live.” (Exodus 33:20 ASV)

    “God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship in spirit and truth.” (John 4:24 ASV)

    “See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye behold me having.” (Luke 24:39 ASV)

    do you not believe Jesus his words than that he is not a spirit but a man of flesh and blood and do you not believe he really died for our sin? Because God cannot die and man can do God nothing.

    You think because Jesus says “11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; ” that Jesus has to be God so when we also have to be in Jesus like he is in the Father and we have to be in union with Christ like he is in union with God than we would also be Christ and as such, according your way of thinking, also be God. (?!?) And should we also not all be in union with each other? That makes us, once again in your way of thinking, all being the same one person?

    Jesus and the Father being one is the same as we having to be one according to the Scriptures. We all have to be one of thinking like Jesus and God thought or think on the same line. Jesus always wanted to do God His ideas and Wishes and not his own. In case he is God then he would always have done his own will and would always have prayed to himself? So why did he ask not to pray to him but to his heavenly Father to whom he also prayed and said:

    “saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.” (Luke 22:42 ASV)

    “I can of myself do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is righteous; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.” (John 5:30 ASV)

    Jesus according to God’s word is in my bibles, in the different languages always the sent one from God and nowhere is written he is God himself. Contrary in all the translations is written that Jesus was lower than the angels and was made higher, though God was, is and always shall be the most high, without Whom Jesus could not do anything.

    “Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; Thou crownedst him with glory and honor, And didst set him over the works of thy hands:” (Hebrews 2:7 ASV)

    “But we behold him who hath been made a little lower than the angels, [even] Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that by the grace of God he should taste of death for every [man].” (Hebrews 2:9 ASV)

    “27 Peace I leave with you; my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be fearful. 28 ¶ Ye heard how I said to you, I go away, and I come unto you. If ye loved me, ye would have rejoiced, because I go unto the Father: for the Father is greater than I. 29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye may believe. 30 I will no more speak much with you, for the prince of the world cometh: and he hath nothing in me; 31 but that the world may know that I love the Father, and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.” (John 14:27-31 ASV)

    “17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh even until now, and I work. 18 For this cause therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only brake the sabbath, but also called God his own Father, making himself equal with God. 19 Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father doing: for what things soever he doeth, these the Son also doeth in like manner. 20 For the Father loveth the Son, and showeth him all things that himself doeth: and greater works than these will he show him, that ye may marvel. 21 For as the Father raiseth the dead and giveth them life, even so the Son also giveth life to whom he will. 22 For neither doth the Father judge any man, but he hath given all judgment unto the Son; 23 that all may honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. He that honoreth not the Son honoreth not the Father that sent him. 24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth him that sent me, hath eternal life, and cometh not into judgment, but hath passed out of death into life. 25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour cometh, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God; and they that hear shall live. 26 For as the Father hath life in himself, even so gave he to the Son also to have life in himself: 27 and he gave him authority to execute judgment, because he is a son of man. 28 Marvel not at this: for the hour cometh, in which all that are in the tombs shall hear his voice, 29 and shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of judgment. 30 I can of myself do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is righteous; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. 31 ¶ If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true. 32 It is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true. 33 Ye have sent unto John, and he hath borne witness unto the truth. 34 But the witness which I receive is not from man: howbeit I say these things, that ye may be saved. 35 He was the lamp that burneth and shineth; and ye were willing to rejoice for a season in his light. 36 But the witness which I have is greater than [that of] John; for the works which the Father hath given me to accomplish, the very works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.” (John 5:17-36 ASV)

    “5 Have this mind in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 who, existing in the form of God, counted not the being on an equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7 but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men; 8 and being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, becoming obedient [even] unto death, yea, the death of the cross.” (Philippians 2:5-8 ASV)

    “But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.” (1 Corinthians 11:3 ASV)

    “And when all things have been subjected unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subjected to him that did subject all things unto him, that God may be all in all.” (1 Corinthians 15:28 ASV)

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    You agree that “There was never a “Before Him” where God is concerned” and that ” God has always been, He always is and He will always be”, though how can Mary be His mother?

    You also say “Catholics do not ‘worship’ Mary” but we can see many bowing down in front of pictures of her and praying to her. What do you consider worshipping then and what is the difference by worshipping God, Jesus, Mary and the other saints?

    You also write ” The Holy Trinity honored (and continues to honor) Mary more than the Catholic Church ever could. Why wouldn’t we follow God’s example and do the same? ”

    Where did as you say God honour Mary? Jesus may have honoured his mother like we also honour our mother, and we do agree that is something totally different than worshipping. But Jesus did not pray to his mother nor should we and where would God have done that?

    Also can you show me one place where there is written the “Trinity” honored (and continues to honor) Mary. In none of the more than 100 bible translations we have can we find that word Trinity.

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    • rightbill says:

      Hello again!

      I suspect that you are Jehova Witness. The quoted ‘scripture’: “In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.” (NWT)

      and

      “The Word was in the beginning, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a God.” (The New Testament in An Improved Version)

      Is a miss-quoting of the original Greek. Jesus was not ‘a god’, He is God. He is not just a creature. Is Christ a true God or a false god by nature? The only way that John’s opening lines make any sense at all is if Jesus IS God.

      In John 20:28, Thomas, as he probes Jesus’ wounds says, “My Lord and my God!” Jesus didn’t correct Thomas’ identification of him as God, because no correction was needed. Thomas, previously doubting, knew exactly what he was saying, and what he was saying was true.

      Jesus is God, and Mary is His mother on Earth. Jesus honored His mother always. If He had not, He would have been breaking the commandment to do so. God the Father honored Mary when He chose her to be the Earthly mother to His Son. The Holy Spirit Honored Mary when He overshadowed her and made her His bride, and the mother of His son.

      One example of Jesus honoring Mary is at the wedding of Cana. Mary asked Him to help and, after telling her that it was not yet His time, He honored her request anyway and turned water into wine. He always did what His mother asked. This is completely in keeping with the Old Testament. The King always honored the Queen Mother’s requests.

      Do you ever ask others to pray for you? Catholics do the same thing. And we also ask Jesus’ mother to pray for us. And we ask that the saints in Heaven pray for us. They are not dead – they are more alive than we are. They are his closest friends. Mark 12:27 “He is not the God of the dead, but of the living”. And we are surrounded by a great cloud of witnesses HEB 12:1.

      Matthew 28:19: “Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.” While the word “Trinity” is not specifically in scripture, the concept certainly is.

      The Trinity is real.

      Hope that helps!

      God Bless You…

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      • guestpeaker says:

        We are no Jehovah Witness, but like them we only keep to the words of the Bible and believe that God is a God of love, of order and not a God of confusion. We also believe that God is a god Who does not tell lies and because we believe Jesus did not sin, we also believe Jesus did not tell lies and always told the truth.

        As such we believe that Jesus is the send one from God and His only beloved begotten son like the heavenly Father declared it.

        This God of Abraham is an eternal (= no beginning/no birth + no ending/not able to die) all knowing God, while Jesus had to learn everything and at the end of his life still did not know a lot of things, even not when he was coming back or who would be seated next to him.

        Please also look at the difference of a god and the God. (Angels, Pharaoh, Moses, Baal, Apollo, Zeus are all called gods but are not The God).

        the apostle John is speaking about God speaking, remembering the words spoken in the Garden of Eden, The promise then made now had become flesh.

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      • rightbill says:

        In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Go, and the Word WAS God. All things came to be through Him, and without Him nothing came into be. What came to be through Him was life, and this life was the light of the human race; the light shines in the darkness and the darkness has not overcome it.” John 1:1 – 5.

        Jesus was, is and ever shall be God.

        God Bless You…

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